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JAS's avatar

Yes the acid test of a politician’s veracity is their view on Israel’s genocide. Thanks John. We never should tire of spelling out the truth.

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includeMeOut's avatar

Nice summation of the schizoid nature of even the “best” pols such as RFK. His analogy of Hamas and the Nazis is completely deranged. How anybody but an insane empire fiddler can support what Israel has been doing to Gaza is appalling.

Tulsi is an opportunist who shifts with the political rip currents and has a Hindu supremacist philosophy and an “interesting” background in a bizarre religious cult.

And these are the “best” that bourgeois politics has on offer.

But at least we have the COVID jab-em-all fundamentalists predominating on much of the Left to serve the working classes in a lemming march to speciscide.

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RFK Jr: "Hamas has proved it only has one goal: to eliminate all Jewish people."

21 Jan 2009. "British MP Sir Gerald Kaufman, in a speech given to the House of Commons, and after qualifying his Jewish Zionist credentials, equates the actions and rhetoric of the Israeli state and its State actors with the actions and rhetoric of the Nazis."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEYz00MqCx0%2F

"I was brought up as an orthodox Jew and a Zionist.... I first went to Israel in 1961 and I have been there since more times than I can count. I had family in Israel and have friends in Israel.... I have known most of the Prime Ministers of Israel, starting with the founding Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion. Golda Meir was my friend, as was Yigal Allon ...

"My parents came to Britain as refugees from Poland. Most of their families were subsequently murdered by the Nazis in the holocaust. My grandmother was ill in bed when the Nazis came to her home town of Staszow. A German soldier shot her dead in her bed.

"My grandmother did not die to provide cover for Israeli soldiers murdering Palestinian grandmothers in Gaza. The current Israeli Government ruthlessly and cynically exploit the continuing guilt among gentiles over the slaughter of Jews in the holocaust as justification for their murder of Palestinians. The implication is that Jewish lives are precious, but the lives of Palestinians do not count...

"The Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni asserts that her Government will have no dealings with Hamas, because they are terrorists. Tzipi Livni's father was Eitan Livni, chief operations officer of the terrorist Irgun Zvai Leumi, who organised the blowing-up of the King David hotel in Jerusalem, in which 91 victims were killed, including four Jews.

"Israel was born out of Jewish terrorism. Jewish terrorists hanged two British sergeants and booby-trapped their corpses. Irgun, together with the terrorist Stern gang, massacred 254 Palestinians in 1948 in the village of Deir Yassin. Today, the current Israeli Government indicate that they would be willing, in circumstances acceptable to them, to negotiate with the Palestinian President Abbas of Fatah. It is too late for that. They could have negotiated with Fatah's previous leader, Yasser Arafat, who was a friend of mine. Instead, they besieged him in a bunker in Ramallah, where I visited him. Because of the failings of Fatah since Arafat's death, Hamas won the Palestinian election in 2006.

--->>> Hamas is a deeply nasty organisation, but it was democratically elected, and it is the only game in town. <<<---

The boycotting of Hamas, including by our [British] Government, has been a culpable error, from which dreadful consequences have followed.

"The great Israeli Foreign Minister Abba Eban, with whom I campaigned for peace on many platforms, said: 'You make peace by talking to your enemies.' However many Palestinians the Israelis murder in Gaza, they cannot solve this existential problem by military means. Whenever and however the fighting ends, there will still be 1.5 million Palestinians in Gaza and 2.5 million more on the west bank. They are treated like dirt by the Israelis, with hundreds of road blocks and with the ghastly denizens of the illegal Jewish settlements harassing them as well.

"It is time for our [British] Government to make clear to the Israeli Government that their conduct and policies are unacceptable, and to impose a total arms ban on Israel. It is time for peace, but real peace, not the solution by conquest which is the Israelis' real goal but which it is impossible for them to achieve. They are not simply war criminals; they are fools."

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RFK Jr: "We killed about 2 million Germans during World War II in order to get to Berlin and denazify it.”

1. Operation Paperclip https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip

"was a secret United States intelligence program in which more than 1,600 German scientists, engineers, and technicians were taken from former Nazi Germany to the U.S. for government employment after the end of World War II in Europe, between 1945 and 1959; several were former members of the Nazi Party."

2. Nearly all historians have concluded that “denazification failed …. Too much was attempted; too little succeeded ….. [Denazification] turned into a bureaucratic nightmare that bedeviled occupation authorities, hindered reconstruction, and gained the enmity of the German people … [A] proposition had been put forward that was almost bound to fail”.

Perry Biddiscombe, “The Denazification of Germany: A History 1945-1950”, 2007, p. 145, p.217.

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Torrance Stephens's avatar

I don't care who's a "Russian Asset" now. That phrase has no more meaning to me anymore just like the words fascist, racist, nazi, and bigot. https://shorturl.at/I13US

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Torrance Stephens's avatar

If Pete Hegseth is a Problem, What is Lloyd J. Austin III?

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JOHN SPRITZLER's avatar

Thank you.

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