Thanks John. If only people would realise that corrupt governments don't represent the common man in any nation and try and influence us to hate each other.
While it is true that Russia is a class society it does not follow that US workers should feel justified for their government to strike Russia with nuclear weapons, even if the Russian government threatens to use nuclear weapons in its defense. Nuclear weapons are the ultimate anti-working class military weapon, threatening the lives of all, military or not, who cannot afford the extraordinary cost of sophisticated bunkers. Inherently the working class should not support their use. However, when threatened with extinction by a foreign oligarchical ruling class who has used such weapons for their political purposes, what choice do the Russian workers have? If they were to unilaterally disarm themselves of nuclear weapons they would almost certainly be attacked by NATO/US with a nuclear attack if they did not submit to increasingly belligerent threats (and probably nuclear bomb demonstrations by NATO/US on Russian soil or in one of the proxy war theaters). It is a terrible choice they are facing but in my opinion, at least, the best of the terrible choices available would be to retain those weapons and the ability to retaliate, including the threat to use them as specifically as possible against the ruling elite of the aggressors, while at the same time agitating for bilateral nuclear disarmament as part of a step toward full disarmament of all anti-working class weapons.
Russian working class people are not the ones making the choice about what the Russian government does. If Russian working class people WERE the ones making that choice, then Russia would be essentially an egalitarian society in which case what I say about how egalitarian societies can protect against hostile nuclear-armed powers would apply.
If Russia was magically transformed into a society ruled by the working class (or was an egalitarian society per your definition) it would still be faced with the monumental problem should it unilaterally disarm its nuclear weapons: the imperialists (globalists, TPTB, or whatever one wants to call them) are quite prepared to use nuclear weapons in their quest for global domination and control. Furthermore, they are bent on a depopulation agenda and the decimation of the Russian population and large portions of their own would serve that purpose as well. There is no indication whatsoever, today, that a first nuclear strike by the imperialists upon Russia would be resisted by Western populations. In fact, the lack of resistance (armed or otherwise) by Western populations undoubtedly is contributing to the hubris of their rulers. I think it would be suicide for Russia as it is now ruled, or if it was an egalitarian society, to unilaterally disarm its nuclear arsenal. They should, however, make it clear they will not strike first, but if forced to retaliate they will eliminate as many imperialists as possible in their retaliatory nuclear attack. It may be that the Russians are doing just that. I saw the video when Putin unveiled their hypersonic ballistic missiles. The computer graphic showed the hypersonic missile launched from Russia striking not Washington, but Tampa, FL, home of Centcom. I think that was a message to the military command that they will be the first to be vaporized should they carry out the imperialists' first strike orders. No sane common person can wish for such a scenario, but the world does not always allow for perfect solutions. As technology progresses and becomes more "advanced" the imperfect solutions are increasingly imperfect and destructive.
I stated earlier why I think an egalitarian society can protect itself without threatening to kill millions or BILLIONS of innocent people. I guess my reasons don’t persuade you.
An egalitarian society is hypothetical. Unfortunately we have to deal with the reality of the here-and-now as well, regardless of what we think and hope the future may bring. What do you propose the present Russian leadership should do now? And yes, I think I made clear that your reasons don't persuade me. I think you overestimate what effect a Russian egalitarian state would have on the actions of the imperialists, and that you underestimate the depopulation agenda of the imperialists.
I propose that the present Russian leadership implements egalitarian revolution and informs the world’s population that Russia is an egalitarian society and any attack on Russia is an attack on the have/nots of the world.
Thanks John. If only people would realise that corrupt governments don't represent the common man in any nation and try and influence us to hate each other.
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Thank you for catching my typo. I corrected it now.
While it is true that Russia is a class society it does not follow that US workers should feel justified for their government to strike Russia with nuclear weapons, even if the Russian government threatens to use nuclear weapons in its defense. Nuclear weapons are the ultimate anti-working class military weapon, threatening the lives of all, military or not, who cannot afford the extraordinary cost of sophisticated bunkers. Inherently the working class should not support their use. However, when threatened with extinction by a foreign oligarchical ruling class who has used such weapons for their political purposes, what choice do the Russian workers have? If they were to unilaterally disarm themselves of nuclear weapons they would almost certainly be attacked by NATO/US with a nuclear attack if they did not submit to increasingly belligerent threats (and probably nuclear bomb demonstrations by NATO/US on Russian soil or in one of the proxy war theaters). It is a terrible choice they are facing but in my opinion, at least, the best of the terrible choices available would be to retain those weapons and the ability to retaliate, including the threat to use them as specifically as possible against the ruling elite of the aggressors, while at the same time agitating for bilateral nuclear disarmament as part of a step toward full disarmament of all anti-working class weapons.
Russian working class people are not the ones making the choice about what the Russian government does. If Russian working class people WERE the ones making that choice, then Russia would be essentially an egalitarian society in which case what I say about how egalitarian societies can protect against hostile nuclear-armed powers would apply.
If Russia was magically transformed into a society ruled by the working class (or was an egalitarian society per your definition) it would still be faced with the monumental problem should it unilaterally disarm its nuclear weapons: the imperialists (globalists, TPTB, or whatever one wants to call them) are quite prepared to use nuclear weapons in their quest for global domination and control. Furthermore, they are bent on a depopulation agenda and the decimation of the Russian population and large portions of their own would serve that purpose as well. There is no indication whatsoever, today, that a first nuclear strike by the imperialists upon Russia would be resisted by Western populations. In fact, the lack of resistance (armed or otherwise) by Western populations undoubtedly is contributing to the hubris of their rulers. I think it would be suicide for Russia as it is now ruled, or if it was an egalitarian society, to unilaterally disarm its nuclear arsenal. They should, however, make it clear they will not strike first, but if forced to retaliate they will eliminate as many imperialists as possible in their retaliatory nuclear attack. It may be that the Russians are doing just that. I saw the video when Putin unveiled their hypersonic ballistic missiles. The computer graphic showed the hypersonic missile launched from Russia striking not Washington, but Tampa, FL, home of Centcom. I think that was a message to the military command that they will be the first to be vaporized should they carry out the imperialists' first strike orders. No sane common person can wish for such a scenario, but the world does not always allow for perfect solutions. As technology progresses and becomes more "advanced" the imperfect solutions are increasingly imperfect and destructive.
I stated earlier why I think an egalitarian society can protect itself without threatening to kill millions or BILLIONS of innocent people. I guess my reasons don’t persuade you.
An egalitarian society is hypothetical. Unfortunately we have to deal with the reality of the here-and-now as well, regardless of what we think and hope the future may bring. What do you propose the present Russian leadership should do now? And yes, I think I made clear that your reasons don't persuade me. I think you overestimate what effect a Russian egalitarian state would have on the actions of the imperialists, and that you underestimate the depopulation agenda of the imperialists.
I propose that the present Russian leadership implements egalitarian revolution and informs the world’s population that Russia is an egalitarian society and any attack on Russia is an attack on the have/nots of the world.